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Just installed it on my N97.

Hope the installation file size isn't anything to go by as it appears to install in the phone memory, which seems a little limited in the N97 when cmopared with the N95 8Gb for example. I assume that although the installation file is 4mb the extra space taken up by the insatlled files will be negligable as existing file will be removed or compressed.

I'm a little weary that my free phone memory is now down at 13mb after installing.

Post uninstall and pre re-boot the free phoen memory went back up to 19.4mb.

Sorry to say the installation takes up too much space when you are stuck with the limitation of the N97 phone drive size.

mbrett
N97 RM-505 FW 10.0.012 (Vodafone UK)
N95 8Gb (Product Code: 0558787 (UK)) FW 31.0.015

Afraid to say, i agree with the guys above, its the lack of phone memory on my N97 which has deterred me installing this, even though i could use it too. I have 7.7Mb of phone memory left, and get the occasional crash, which shuts down the phone, and Im unable to switch it back on for a few minutes. When it does switch back on, I have to enter the date, and time all over again. Luckily, I have not lost any data.

not sure how other people segregate the installed apps but i have around 30+ mb on c after installation together with my other apps. They run fine under the memory card. Only problem is the midpssh either crashes or runs too slowly (didn't wait). Needed this software functionality so had to uninstall the java update. Tried all flavours of midpssh, midp ver 1,2 and development release. Unable to run macros or input commands. Please keep releasing stuff. It is experimental so use at your own risk i guess.

I've installed JRT on my 5800 and it's working nice, running Opera is much much faster now :)

but I just noticed that the JRT download link is broken!! was it a bad beta version!??

Now that I have read the intention of this beta release more deeply. One of the point made was about trying a new approach of releasing JRT, decoupling it from the S60.

With this view, the good and bad of doing so becomes a bit more fuzzy.

The benefit of being able to get new JRT updates, especially for (future) aged S60 releases is a definite positive.

On the other hand, there could be perceived(and real) risk of increased incompatibility between certain combination of Java applications and JRT versions and devices. But I imagine such risk will be mitigated, by for example allowing only certain JRT updates for specific firmware of specific device.

From another view, there are currently a few other "runtime" available on S60, from Flashlite and WRT that comes with firmware, to PythonS60 that needs to be installed separately. Where does JRT stands amongst?

Personally, the scenerio that I would like to see is
1) Decouple all "runtime" from the platform - Flashlite, WRT, PyS60, JRT. (Keep the firmware lean)
2) And when an end user application needs a specific runtime(detected or specified), then download/install/update that required runtime accordingly.

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I think Beta labs should highlight that this beta is more intended for developer. Not usual beta applications users(more like end users).

The target beta group is different in my opinion.

I think developer will be interested to beta test on this RT, and possibly able to provide more constructive feedback.

End user feedback like phone memory being filled up should not be the issue once the RT is part of phone's internal memory(ROM?).

Maybe such beta is better hosted from Forum Nokia.

If you are facing problem with OperaMini, check the settings

Menu-->Tools-->Settings

Under "Network" heading, set the "Protocol" field as "HTTP"

It should work fine.

Do NOT install this unless you have AT LEAST 13Mb free on your 5800 C: drive to start with.

I managed to get it installed an everything working and have 3.3Mb free remaining afterwards.

Previously I had tried with 8.5Mb free to start with and was left with a very sick 5800 indeed. After much gnashing of teeth I got my phone back to a usable state.

I tried installing a second time with 13Mb free to start with, and the phone still works.

After installing this Java release on my 5800XM I can no longer run Opera Mini. I get the same error as user 'trinitrion'.
I uninstalled Opera, re-installed it, and it still has the same error. Opera reinstalled to memory card. 24 MB free in phone after reinstalling Java.
My home screen icons have all changed after installation of Java 2.0. Internet Radio starts playing without even being started.

Tried uninstalling Opera again, rebooting, then reinstalling Opera to phone. No joy.
Uninstalled Opera, uninstalled Nokia Java 2.0, rebooted, Opera Mini reappears as installed, and runs, even though I didn't reinstall it.

Is is possible that we must uninstall Opera before installing Java 2.0? I'm unwilling to go through the whole rigamarole again to test that idea.

Hi,

I tried the new Java runtime with some of my own Java apps. First of all, it would be good to understand what is happening behind the scenes when all Java applications are being 'converted' immediately after the JRT has been installed. All my apps store data locally in Java recordstores - are these being converted to a new format?

Anyway, I did not see any noticeable increase in speed using the new runtime. I did hit two problems. Firstly, one of my apps uses the switch 'Nokia-MIDlet-Background-Event: pause' in the jad file to detect when the app comes to foreground. This behaviour wasn't replicated with the new runtime. Secondly, another of my apps uses a large (>3 meg) recordstore. Normally this takes about 4 secs to open on my 5800. With the new runtime, it fails to open - no error message but just waits indefinitely.

Lastly, I was hoping that you might have fixed the really annoying bug in javax.microedition.lcdui.TextBox where the cursor position always defaults to the last character, instead of respecting the value of getCaretPosition(). Unfortunately, the bug is still there :-(

If you want more details of these errors then please contact me at malcolm@freepoc.org

Best regards,
Malcolm

I think the new approach of separately distributing updates to the runtime is great! Please keep that up and extend it further. Finally I might not need to throw away my phone if I want to update the software. As a hobby j2me software developer, I would be very interested in testing the new runtime, but unfortunately my phone is a S60 3rdFP2 phone, so I guess it won't work. It would be really great if you could release a new runtime for 3rd edition too.

Seeing as i really need Java working for Joomla so I can publish to Nokiausers from my N97, I thought I would give this a go. Sadly, I now only have 16mb of phone memory left, as it auto installed to phone memory, and not give me the option to select WHERE I WANTED IT.

I will give it a test today, and report my findings.

How do you uninstall this, I cannot find it in file manager on my N97. I want my 10 MB phone memory back.

I got a system errro rwhile converting, the device needs reboot, all my icons where messed up in the application folder, oera doen't work and came up with a java security error....

jesus what a crap. hopefully the deinstallation

Installation drive can be changed by clicking "View Details" link during the installation